TL;DR
Toast is the US F&B POS leader — excellent in market. Outside the US, hardware lock-in, dependence on Toast Payments (US-only), and absence of GrabFood/ShopeeFood/HĐĐT make it impractical for SEA F&B. LOOP is built SEA-native.
LOOP vs Toast POS — Why US-Built POS Struggles in SEA F&B
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PEKO ecosystem
LOOP runs the venue. PEKO brings the customer back. Two products, one company.
PEKO — the AI customer-retention platform (heypeko.com) from the same company as LOOP. PEKO handles retention; LOOP handles operations.
| LOOP — operations | PEKO — retention |
|---|---|
| Inventory & recipes | Churn prediction |
| Shift & staff management | Automated win-back |
| Table layout | Member portal |
| Kitchen display (KDS) | Loyalty tiers |
| E-invoice (TT78) | Receipt OCR enrolment |
| Aggregator queue (GrabFood / ShopeeFood / Be) |
LOOP and PEKO each work on their own. Run both and the data syncs into one single AI brain, so nothing is entered twice. PEKO is not a POS and does not replace one — it also runs alongside any other POS.
Choose LOOP if
- ✓You run 2+ outlets and want one operator who can speak commands instead of clicking.
- ✓You want AI demand forecasting per daypart (targetmodelled accuracy published in our methodology, not gut-feel.
- ✓You're on SEA payment rails (VietQR, PromptPay, QRIS, DuitNow, PayNow, QR Ph).
- ✓You're already on PEKO loyalty (or planning to) — 50% lifetime LOOP discount.
Choose Toast if
You operate primarily in the US and need native payroll.
| Feature | LOOP POS | Toast | Source |
|---|---|---|---|
| Hardware | BYO Android (no lock-in) | Toast-only hardware | Not published |
| Payment processor | VietQR/PromptPay/QRIS/cards | Toast Payments (US) | Not published |
| SEA aggregators | Grab/Shopee/Be/foodpanda/Gojek | DoorDash/UberEats (US) | Not published |
| AI in Vietnamese | Native | Not available | Not published |
Why teams pick LOOP
- Built for SEA from day one.
- Local payment rails + e-invoice native.
- Per-outlet pricing in local currency.
When neither is right
- You run one outlet with a fixed menu and only need receipts — a free tier from either vendor is enough, and paying for a mid tier changes nothing.
- You need something neither LOOP POS nor Toast publishes support for (full payroll, table timers) — buy that tool separately and keep the till simple.
- Your format is still changing — settle the business model first; switching POS twice costs more than waiting.
Frequently asked
- Returning Vietnamese F&B operator from the US — should I bring Toast?
- No. Toast hardware doesn't process VietQR, HĐĐT is not native, and you'd be the only restaurant in Vietnam on it. LOOP's playbook for returning operators imports your menu and pricing logic in week 1.
- Does LOOP include loyalty?
- LOOP handles operations. For AI-driven customer retention, PEKO is the sibling product from the same company — it runs alongside LOOP or alongside any other POS. Together they cover operations and retention.
- Can PEKO handle inventory and staff scheduling?
- No — PEKO is the retention layer. LOOP covers inventory, recipes, shifts, table management and kitchen display in the same ecosystem.
Sources
- Toast pricing — checked
- LOOP POS pricing — checked
Disclosure: LOOP POS is our own product. Competitor details come from each vendor's published material on the dates listed; where a vendor publishes nothing the cell reads “not published” and we make no claim.
